Re: [Sheflug] Java IDE

["Stephen J. Turnbull" <nospam [at] sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>]

>>>>> "Will" == Will Newton <will [at] misconception.org.uk> writes:

    Will> On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Chris J/#6 wrote:

    >> Will's keyboard must be dodgy ... shurly that should read "vim"
    >> not "xemacs"?

    Will> For all you followers of the one true path, the latest
    Will> release of xemacs has GTK support (The RedHat RPMS come with
    Will> it as default AFAIK).  Looks sweet. Better than gvim
    Will> anyway. :)

Jeez, Will, sometimes you really surprise me.  I thought you were
going to mention JDE, which we support better than That Other Emacs
does.  As for GTK XEmacs:

It is _not_ a release.  It is too buggy (full of core dumps and race
conditions) to be called a release.  By Emacs standards[1], that is.
But no modern Linux distro is complete without a few gotchas of that
sort, is it?

It also completely lacks features requiring GTK+ (unless Red Hat is
holding out on us)---except for the useless floating toolbars.  (As of
a month ago, the menubar was still native XEmacs homebrew; has Bill
fixed that, yet?)

I'm not surprised that Red Hat made it their default.  As it stands,
as a product it is _pure_ flash 'n' trash.  What was that you were
saying about "shocking" lack of content, José?

It won't be the default, even on platforms that support it, for at
least another release cycle.  By that time we will have real support
for it (use the GTK font selector in Custom, Glade support, that kind
of thing).

And we'll have a fix for the "one console at a time" GTK design bug.
Hopefully it will come from GTK, but the omens aren't good.


Footnotes: 
[1]  Thank you, RMS.  You got that right.

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